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				<description><![CDATA[ Who is the best fighter here never to hold a title?<br /> I´d like to nominate myself, Dick E. Boon.<br /> <br /> Ive been playing this god damn game for 4 years now.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:35:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Dick E. Boon]Who is the best fighter here never to hold a title?<br /> I´d like to nominate myself, Dick E. Boon.<br /> <br /> Ive been playing this god damn game for 4 years now.<br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> I don't think you are because nobody can fight properly with your ridiculous lag. Although, you might be the next HTF/Fatny in 2D but nobody will know because of your lag..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:21:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No Ray, I am talking about the best fighter NEVER to hold a title. Fatny and HTF both held titles, many titles. I am talking about good fighters that never ever won a belt. Who?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:07:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Dick E. Boon]No Ray, I am talking about the best fighter NEVER to hold a title. Fatny and HTF both held titles, many titles. I am talking about good fighters that never ever won a belt. Who?[/quote]<br /> <br /> .. I knew exactly what you were talking about. What i said was you could be as good as Fatny or HTF right now but nobody would notice because of your lag. In any case, i'll get back to you on the 'best fighter' thing..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:58:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ray, I will never be as good as Fatny or HTF, not with any ping.  This topic isnt about my lag and ping, but about who are the great fighters never to hold a title.<br /> So ....  who?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:13:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Dick E. Boon]Ray, I will never be as good as Fatny or HTF, not with any ping.  This topic isnt about my lag and ping, but about who are the great fighters never to hold a title.<br /> So ....  who?[/quote]<br /> <br /> What he's trying to say is it's hard to judge how good you actually are due to your high ping.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:34:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I understand what he says, but this is not about my ping but about very good fighters that never have been champ. Ok, leave me out of it if you want, what great fighters never hold a title? Anyone?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:39:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ BlackRED]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:51:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ike Ideogobu, he just recently made a comeback., If he stays do not no. but hes never won a WORLD title. Also monkeytail never made a defense on his main. But if you are going by not winning period probably BlackRed]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:18:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i'll say me or BlackRED]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:48:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Professor]Ike Ideogobu, he just recently made a comeback., If he stays do not no. but hes never won a WORLD title. Also monkeytail never made a defense on his main. But if you are going by not winning period probably BlackRed[/quote]<br /> <br /> Good call Prof..  and I will never make a defense of a title if I happen to win it again... Guaranteed a loss for me in the rematch although some of the champs recently I may have to actually keep it on the rematch.    I've never wanted the title.  (you ever tried swinging from tree to tree with a heavy belt weighing you down?) Not sure if GF  has ever won a title but i'd bet he lost the rematch as well for the same reason...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:19:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I only say this because I believe you need a ttle defense to actually say you won the titke. Im just of the old school like that. These newer players think their champs when thay freeze ko, LUCK KO no defense, or beat the improper champion. (oh say for example some bum has the title of a frozen fight and you beat him and think your a champ now) But winning a title is about winning and maintaining it not just getting lucky once.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:03:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And also 1 Dope Mexicans title was discredited. And he is far superior to you Boon.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:05:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ BlackRed by far.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:30:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Professor]I only say this because I believe you need a ttle defense to actually say you won the titke. Im just of the old school like that. These newer players think their champs when thay freeze ko, LUCK KO no defense, or beat the improper champion. (oh say for example some bum has the title of a frozen fight and you beat him and think your a champ now) But winning a title is about winning and maintaining it not just getting lucky once.[/quote]<br /> gta give u cred for that prof i agree completely.<br /> I was the most active champ when i had my belts  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" />  i lost my 2 belts to htf and to bear.<br /> They arent very active at all and you can get once in a while a vet make a noob a good example is what fernando vagras did he won a belt by creating a noob then was inactive for a while then lost on his 4th defense lol when the defense wasnt a noob lol.<br /> I defended my title 100+ times against vets and just people that were online plus i lost my titles a few time but won them back.<br /> These days theres jus pure vets making new boxers pretending to be new jus so they can lame a belt then when they do they dnt rematch.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:20:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=sterlihalla]gta give u cred for that prof i agree completely.<br /> I was the most active champ when i had my belts  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" />  i lost my 2 belts to htf and to bear.<br /> They arent very active at all and you can get once in a while a vet make a noob a good example is what fernando vagras did he won a belt by creating a noob then was inactive for a while then lost on his 4th defense lol when the defense wasnt a noob lol.<br /> I defended my title 100+ times against vets and just people that were online plus i lost my titles a few time but won them back.<br /> These days theres jus pure vets making new boxers pretending to be new jus so they can lame a belt then when they do they dnt rematch.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Why do you accuse all the vets about making alts? Not all of them do.<br /> <br /> But, i think that's a good point professor.. but i think winning a title is winning a title. However, i think that if you won the rematch you'd get a lot more respect then if you lost it and if you don't rematch at all it shouldn't be counted as a title (and would get no respect).<br /> <br /> ^ that's my view on titles. 1 Dope used to play ages ago, i'm sure he's won many titles?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:49:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He won one as Kikin when HTF was Superchamp but it was lag fight plus no rematch.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:42:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ But he did win a couple more times after that.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I never won a title <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" />  poor me]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:49:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=sterlihalla][quote=Professor]I only say this because I believe you need a ttle defense to actually say you won the titke. Im just of the old school like that. These newer players think their champs when thay freeze ko, LUCK KO no defense, or beat the improper champion. (oh say for example some bum has the title of a frozen fight and you beat him and think your a champ now) But winning a title is about winning and maintaining it not just getting lucky once.[/quote]<br /> gta give u cred for that prof i agree completely.<br /> I was the most active champ when i had my belts  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" />  i lost my 2 belts to htf and to bear.<br /> They arent very active at all and you can get once in a while a vet make a noob a good example is what fernando vagras did he won a belt by creating a noob then was inactive for a while then lost on his 4th defense lol when the defense wasnt a noob lol.<br /> I defended my title 100+ times against vets and just people that were online plus i lost my titles a few time but won them back.<br /> These days theres jus pure vets making new boxers pretending to be new jus so they can lame a belt then when they do they dnt rematch.[/quote]<br /> <br /> Reaper i'd like to give ya credit, but ive been pretty much retired since u came to OB.  Although I've watched several of your fights.  The point I was just bringing up is me as a player never wanted the title, and even if i did win the title I'd lose the rematch on purpose. Winning the title was accidental although me and NG had a few good wars.  Losing the title was pre-determined before the fight began.  But thats in the past anyways....    The future belongs to you..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Jan 2008 22:56:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ monkeytail]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have not seen you box Monkeytail so I can not include you.<br /> <br /> The best boxer to never win a title is 1 Dope Mexican or BlackRed depending on if people validate or deny 1 Dope Mexican his title victory over HTF.<br /> <br /> Franky said and no offence meant but no one else comes even close to these two especially 1 Dope Mexican. Just saying like it is.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:14:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rocky Marciano]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ rocky u aint won a proper title yet either but ur not as gd as blackred and 1dope <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" /><br /> Im glad ive had so many titles and defenses hehe <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 10:26:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sterlihalla]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the worst fighter would be Legend. Rocky you should see the fight where I slap Legend into submission.  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /> <br /> <br /> Have to agree with Reaper here.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:07:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Dick E. Boon]I think the worst fighter would be Legend. Rocky you should see the fight where I slap Legend into submission.  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" /> <br /> <br /> Have to agree with Reaper here.[/quote]<br /> <br /> You don't "have to agree", you just suck up to Reaper because he is the only one that gives you title fights.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:39:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Reaper is the only one giving me title shots and I am grateful for that. We also happen to agree on the Rocky thing. We both dislike him very much.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:51:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dick E. Boon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The reason people discount 1 Dopes multiple title wins. Is because the title began circulating around the "improper chamP" and since many believed HTF was unstoppable at the time(like Fatny) people say he never wouldve held the title if HTF wouldve gotten a rematch.<br /> <br /> Also Rocky has had a proper title. Dont know what you are talking about Reaper.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:54:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Professor]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Professor]The reason people discount 1 Dopes multiple title wins. Is because the title began circulating around the "improper chamP" and since many believed HTF was unstoppable at the time(like Fatny) people say he never wouldve held the title if HTF wouldve gotten a rematch.<br /> [/quote]<br /> <br /> But he did win the title and that title win was legitimate. A title win should only be discredited when the challenger wins by a Freeze KO.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:14:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ a title win is "legitemate" is when the challanger beats the champion for the title AND rematches the former champ immedeately.<br /> <br /> So if he wins both those fights than he is the legitemate champ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:41:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Couture]a title win is "legitemate" is when the challanger beats the champion for the title AND rematches the former champ immedeately.<br /> <br /> So if he wins both those fights than he is the legitemate champ[/quote]<br /> <br /> Well that's only what people have gone along with. I know where you're coming from, the champ who has lost the title (due to luck) is still the more skilled on and therefore deserves the title. But it also means that the challenger did have enough skill to beat him making it a legitimate win, however 'lucky' it was.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ id like to nominate myself. im a little rusty but i think im on the same level as kuyajosh and eddie maybe that emmj guy too]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Jens Oso]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Best fighter never to hold a title</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Jens Oso]id like to nominate myself. im a little rusty but i think im on the same level as kuyajosh and eddie maybe that emmj guy too[/quote]<br /> <br /> Aha, then you're very far down  <img src="http://localhost:8080/jforum/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" /> Eddie and Kuya are not good at all and Emmj is [i]partially[/i] skilled in [u]some[/u] areas. Now, being at that low level and being rusty ask yourself - Are you anywhere near the top?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Feb 2008 08:25:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ray Johnson]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Best fighter never to hold a title</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ When I played I never won a title]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Feb 2008 02:15:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ goldenboy88]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Best fighter never to hold a title</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Couture]a title win is "legitemate" is when the challanger beats the champion for the title AND rematches the former champ immedeately.<br /> <br /> So if he wins both those fights than he is the legitemate champ[/quote]<br /> Completely agree there if you cant win the rematch then you cant be consider a real champ and chrille things hes a real 4 times champion rofl 4 luck wins and never won a rematch lol.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:04:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sterlihalla]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Best fighter never to hold a title</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I agree ive watched monk get a good solid ko of the champ then basicly say heres the title back.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> He rather go 10 rounds of great fun and lose then to win the title. Hes a good fighter.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Feb 2008 17:55:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ HTF]]></author>
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