Messages posted by: mike watson

Couture wrote:lmao Heavy bag KO1 Charlie bwahahahah

LOL

that was so damn funny.

especailly when he ran out of stamina against another heavybag and started to slap the bag to death.

2-0 to heavy bag.

im sure he is doing this as a joke. oh and have you seen him when he fights that "heavywieght"?

a man i think you should add to this list of underated fighter would be a man by the name of charles burley

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=009004&cat=boxer

now you may look at the record and go oh he lost 12 times.

but where as langford fought soft opposition on and off burley was fighting world class fighters for 15 years.

was a world class counterpuncher and a skilled boxer with a big dig in both hands.

he was so good lamotta,robinson , cerdan refused to fight him. where as sam was in a racist time when dempsey's manager didnt want any black fighter fighting him which includes mcvey,wills, and langford.

burley was actually vocally ducked by great welter and middlewieght champions and contenders who ducked him through him being a dangerous fighter....he never made you look good which is the main thing

also would like to mention he beat up archie moore...yes a light heavywieght champion with ease

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-news/donelson0607.php

the next charlie zelenoff

Rofl i would be a monster ob player if i played 12 hours a day

um mate you did summer hols was just you all day

i come back in peace

Augustus wrote:I've seen so many versions of this post since 2002 it's crazy.
I recken you will see a "the fall of OB post" every year or so.

OB has always gone through rough patches, yet it always bounces back. It isn't nearly as vacant as it was when it went to a pay to play game. OB survived that.

yeah the death of boxing is also talked about alot

Mikkel wrote:All this is going to change with the 3D version so don't worry.

the clean slate approches

well we thought he was goign to unify with big mac. but he made it clear he is going to heavy and has already vacted the belt.

david haye heavywieght express here we come

sterlihalla wrote:Ive seen them fight theres not much talent in that division carl froch isnt world class and miranda is more of a middle wieght anyway.
sadio bika crap and tito is moving up to light heavy to fight roy jones.
manfredo is crap.
allen green was alrite but now hes gotten crap.
Joe calzaghe stated he might be retiring because of lack of talent in his division.
Vargras crap and so is maygora thats why they both have losses on there records.
Richest? lol no one even hears about this division anymore except for now.
You cant name 1 undefeated good super middle wieght except for joe and kessler because there is none except these two lack of talent in my book but i gues ur going of ur own opinion but il say mine.
Cant believe u included the almost 40 year old tito lol way past his prime trinidad lol u must of been desperate lookin for people and mundine who? lol.

yeah i added tito, jones, mayorga and vargas becuase i know you would of heard of them...saldy you dont know enough boxing to not accept that the supermiddlewieght division is one of the strongest division.
joe calzaghe can either fight bute, miranda, foch or go up in wieght.
now the problem is that miranda was beaten at middlewieght and is now starting afresh and looking good at it.
froch is a scary muthafuka but hasnt fought enough nor has bute who are still young...calzaghe has flushed the divison he has nothing left to prove here.

THAT is why he wants to move up in wieght because a win over clinton woods would be a great achievment to be a two wieght world champion would add alot of kudos.

and wait whats this at the bottom of your post
they are crap becuase they have losses on there records!?!?!?!?!?! LOSSES MEAN NOTHING WINS ARE EVERYTHING
vargas and miranda are world class fighters.
and your trying to tell me that an unbeaten fighter is a good fighter?

i just wondered if your left handed you would be at a disadvantage with these controls.unless you change them of course but it's to late to change really.

nwyas out of intrest who is southpaw here

sterlihalla wrote:LOL always trying to prove u know things tut i dont have to prove anything to you.
I can think of a few bigger then kessler and a old joe.
Enzo marc versus jean marc mormeck
Paul williams versus cotto
Junior witter versus gavin rees
Juan diaz versus joel casamoya
Man i could go on and on.
Maybe u realise why this will be joe's last fight at that wieght division because it lacks talent thats why its being hyped so much i mean the guy basically said it himself lol.

im goign to quote that so you cant edit it

now when i said it's the biggest unification fight since ray leonard vs tommy hearns........ i meantit's the biggest unification fight since the ray leonard vs tommy hearns fight...when did paul williams vs cotto happen or juan diaz vs joel casamyor

i must of missed them

was it good must of been really exciting did you watch them by any chance

also do you think gavin rees is a genuine world class fighter...he did give maybe the weakest title holder the fight of his life but to say that a unification with witter

your just writnign nems from boxrecs rating slist and saw oooh 2 british fighters who are world champions...hmmmm

also the super middlewieght divison is the 2nd highest concentration of world class fighter after welterwieght (which is almost impossible to topple the amoutn of world class fighters there are)

at super middlewieght you have
joe calzaghe
mikkel kessler
lucian BOOTAAAY
allen green
carl froch
anthony mundine(though i dont know if he is retiring or not)
ZUNIGA!!!!!!
roy jones
tito trinidad
fernando vargas
ricardo mayorga
edison PANTERA miranda
sakio bika
peter manfredo
jaidon codrington
inkin
theres alot more out there.

this is the richest this division has ever been.
in the avergae amoutn of fights at supermiddlewieght are a whopping 4.36 per year to a welter who fights as much as 2.74 per year

and what the fuck is this joe calzaghe thing saying that he is overhyped...if you know anything about calzaghe is that he has never been hyped for the whole length of his career. he hasnt had a multi million promoter behind him until now and in that he isnt getting a good share of it.

aww poor reaper his fingers are writing checks that his knowledge cant cash.

sterlihalla wrote:Well took u a long while to reply mike watson so u been doing alot of research i see lol its too obvious.
I said he hasnt done more then mayweather he is very overrated his best win is oscar del ya hoya who quite frankly isnt that gd lol.
Losing to winky wright is respectable but not when wright was past his prime and losing to a no name forrest aswell twice is like wtf lol.
Being dominate in a wieght division isnt that hard mayweather dominate at super feather/junior light/light wieght to be honest.
Yeh hes beat oscar and gues what he would hand his ass to him again cause it was a lop sided fight.
I cant believe it took u so long to make a post listing only 1 gd fighter shane has beat totally over rated.
He doesnt deserve sugar as a nickname yeh it looks gd on paper but hes no gd in the ring his career is over and cotto will end him for gd.

took a long time!!!!!!!!?????????...mate thats 4 days

jeez man i dont spend all my time on this man...have you seen me in the digi ring for a while....uh .....what?.....i can't there you .......oh no! you havnt oh thats right becuase i go to college man

these arnt like emails that i comment back as quick aspossible this is a forum....a place where you put ideas down and let other people hear your views.

look at mayweathers record he has not fought a non top 10 ranker for 10 years...even the greatest fighters of all time pick pass-bye fights.

and his best wins were against manfreddy,brussels,gatti,shamba,corrrales,judah,castillo,corley even the drunken master himself (and i bet you need to do a bit of research who that is).

and for what reason is it easier to dominate super feather ,lightwieght and light welter than anyothers like wieght means that there are weaker fighters or somthing.

hmm nice logic creap.

mosley is earning of the name he wans when he started but few fighters do i know who actually face anyone to prove themselves.

some 'warriors' that you love.also arent as sweet as you make them

Roy Jones RAN from hopkins when Hopkins reached his prime also ducked Erdai,Michalczewski and johnson. and when he gets in trouble and gets outboxed by montell griffin he punches montell while he was down big warrior mentality

corrales was a coward when it came to making fights he never wanted anythign to do with none unless they paid him enough. joel casamyor,castillo were only made after fuckign ages of wieght problems and then him sueing castillo for it

warrior mentality.

kelley pavlik is a wasteman and is gonna get exposed brutally one day. he got knocked down by jermain taylro who is not a big puncher and his only money shot is a right cross......and it was a left hook that dropped pavlik HAHAHAHAHA

anyways back to mosley mosley is a hall of famer easily. and his losses.

to vernon forrest he just got cramped on by the bigger guy not just that you should have a look at vernons amatuer record this is what people were scared of

it's a good read.

and winky wasnt past his prime and in that it's winky writgh we are talking about here. winky has a chance of breaking the hall of fame.

if your going to lose to anyone it should be the number 1 ranked lightmiddle and that was winky.

no one wanted to fight winky no one wanted to fight forrest shane put his belt on the line and saifd i'll take you on...thats more useful to the sport a guy who will defend his belt against anyone who wants a shot not a grab a title and sit on it for years and years and politik your ways out of big fights

mosley was also p4p champion for 3 years longer than floyd and oscar

sterlihalla wrote:wat has mosely achived what mayweather hasnt? i think mayweather has achived more callin him sugar is a joke tbh imo

ok do you think floyd isnt a hall of famer?super featherwieght all the way to light middlewiehgt that pretty impressive and he is a fun guy to watch when againsdt as slow plodder.

the only man to win 6 titles in differen twieght classes was delahoya AND MOSLEY BEAT HIM TWICE

lets start at the top he was a domintating lightwieght and destroyed all opposition even though he didnt unify id didnt matter all other champions ducked him and the only man that he wanted business with was oscar delahoya.

SO

mosley jumped over the lightwelterwiehgt barrior to chase oscar for a fight and destroyed all of those who opposed him...he then beat a prime oscar and defeated anybody and fought anybody the most dodged person in boxing at the time was vernon forrest and he let him fight him. he lost fought a few more time and then launched his comback against dela hoya II at fucking lightmiddlewieght form a guy who is barely 5'9

he beat him and instead of trying to make more dough by fighting oscar again he chose a little known fighter from st.petersberg called Winky Wright.

i can tbelieve i have to explain to you who mosley is and his accomplishments.

you know nothing about mosley if you think he is not a hall of famer

and the 3rd best sugar of all time

sterlihalla wrote:wow mike thats a far big statement to make for this era.
A big fight indeed kessler might win by ko i feel that happening due to the age factor the younger you are the better in fights like these but at the same time joe has alot of expierance it can go either way.
My bets on kessler hes in his prime more then joe i reckon.

i know i feel kinda dirty saying that the kessler calzaghe fight is gonna be like hearns and leonard.
but actually can you think of a unification fight of 2 highclass fighters in the same division?

then that means i proved my point and thus means you know little about boxing

im so incited

this is the biggest unification fight since tommy hearns and ray leonard at welterwieght almost 20 years ago.

your thoughts please